Bonus Q & A
Q) So you think this bull run in gold and silver is over, and you are selling out? You need sympathy, not respect! Would you be interested in buying some cattle grazing land a few miles west of California?
A) No! That is not at all what I said. I don’t even get any respect about being able to say what I mean! I don’t know when gold and silver will peak, but I’m confident we aren’t near there yet. My bet is that the final highs will be much higher than most people expect. I only said I am taking a few profits off the table now, and planning to buy back into a future correction. The most that I am willing to sell is 25% of my maximum position. The remaining 75% is a core investment that I do not intend to sell until the Fed raises interest rates to higher than real inflation, which they will not do because this time it really is different. I gave up long ago on trying to time market tops or bottoms. Nobody, including me, has any respect for my skills at calling tops and bottoms!
3/13/08 A reader writes:
I just dumped all my gold stock for cash. That represents about 1/4th of my chips. The rest is in gold and silver bullion. What should I buy when the correction comes, with an eye towards selling at the next peak? Loading up my pickup and driving to the local coin shop doesn't sound too smart. What is the "better way"? I'd like to use that 25% for silver related trading. What are some things that I could look at? SLV? SLW?
Comments by the Optimist:
Congratulations on taking a well deserved profit. I am doing the same too! Then, lets both hope that we will get a chance to buy back more at a lower price this summer. I agree that it is not the best idea to haul pounds of silver and gold down to a coin dealer when you want to capture profits. The buy - sell spread on physical is as financially painful as the work to haul the stuff. My game plan is to keep at least 25% in paper (SLV, PAAS, SLW, AEM, GG, etc.). Then I can easily sell the paper whenever I want to take profits. When buying back, I replace the paper percentage and also add more physical to the Do Not Sell pile. Cheers! Jim
3/13/08 Dave Andrews (author of You can’t eat gold) writes:
My feeling is that POG and POS will correct a bit later this spring, perhaps consolidate, and spend most of the summer languishing. I'm not buying much right now (prices too high) nor am I selling much. Just waiting for summer. If you look at the seasonal charts for both Au and Ag, invariably they consolidate and go on vacation for summer. Best time of year to accumulate!
Likewise I agree with you about real estate values. Nothing goes straight down. Too many bears out there! If you have a contrarian streak, you have to assume that with the warmer spring days coming, the birds tweeting, the sun shining, the flowers blooming...folks are going to be out looking at houses. Nobody is any more satisfied with their current digs, than they ever were. "Joe Six-Pack" (a demeaning name I never cared for) will be out with the wife and kids looking at properties.
Question: Given that this is an election year (despite the current CRAP they're put up for candidates), do you foresee all the gawd-awful stuff happening that most prognosticators are falling over themselves to be the first to predict? Choose an essay - virtually any one - and we read of imminent bank failures, a higher foreclosure rate, bankruptcies by the gazillions, and the collapse of the entire financial system. In due time, if things are not handled correctly - yes, I could see a gradual slide into a painful and protracted recession, perhaps even a depression (inflationary). But I just don't see it all imploding this year. Was wondering what your thoughts were on this!
Good to read your ideas again! I have not written much lately. Instead, we have been doing - bought a piece of remote acreage 20 miles from the Canada border, and we're stockpiling grains, guns, woolen socks, leather boots, a 1500 gal water cistern, water filtration, cordwood, a huge buried LP submarine (to be filled - you guessed it - in the heat of summer!), generators, heirloom seeds, and other such survival stuff. If we don't really need it all, so much the better! But we'd rather be personally prepared. After all - you can't eat gold!
Comments by the Optimist:
Dave, Great to hear from you again, too! Later in the spring, I will be seriously envious of your preparations, but for now, I am happy to be in a somewhat warmer climate! My guess is that TPTB will still have the ability to hold things together through this year. I am hopeful that we will see more signs of impending collapse before the house of cards falls flat. Cheers! Jim
3/14/08 A reader writes:
I got into mining stocks about 2 years ago. I've amassed a nice position, but haven't come up with a solid strategy for taking profits. Ideally, I'd like to take profits and reinvest in what I think will be a bull market in (the last 6 months have been a beast though)! Do you recommend selling 25% of your holdings with 75% long?
Also, do you think metals will suffer terribly from the recession. I invest in junior miners, which are a-long-way from production.
Comments by the Optimist:
My philosophy may not be best for everyone, so I try to avoid giving recommendations about what other people should do. I am comfortable with taking as much as 25% profits with silver and gold very close to my upper channel line, but that might not be the right thing for other people, so I am not advising anyone else to do the same thing that I am doing. Another concern is that my approach could be seriously wrong in two major ways. After I sell my 25%, silver and gold could have a blow off top comparable to 1980, but at much higher prices. I can handle that risk of making fewer profits than if I did not sell, but I do not want to be responsible for other people's anger if they think that I told them to liquidate a significant part of their position too soon. Alternatively, the prices of silver and gold could plunge soon, before I have the opportunity to take my profits in a leisurely way. Once again, I can handle the risk of missing out on profits and holding my full position for a few more years if need be, but other people could be a bit irritated if they thought I told them to cash in some profits at too slow a pace so that they do not take any profits at all. I have no special knowledge about when or where precious metals prices will go, so I can only follow my philosophy and hope for the best. I am happy that you took the time to read my work, but you must do your own due diligence so you can decide for yourself what is the best plan for you to follow.
If the FED and other nations central banks actually tried to control the amount of currency they pump into the economy, then a world wide recession would be a bearish time for all industrial commodities, including precious metals. My guess is that neither the USA, nor any other country, will take the risk of a potential deflationary depression by tightening financially. I expect the FED to keep the money flowing at ever increasing rates in an effort to keep the economy from doing worse than a mild slowdown. That additional money pumped into the economy will propel inflation and precious metals higher. I am very bullish on silver and gold. I just hope that I can sell a little to take some profits now and then have an opportunity to buy it back at lower prices later this summer. Wish me luck! Cheers! Jim
3/14/08 G. H. writes:
Buy GOLD & SILVER …. To pay off the National Debt and Trade Deficit.
Is it fair and American if the US govt. is buying gold & silver to pay off the National Debt and Trade Deficit. With the demise of the US Dollar, what will that do to our economy, nation, and status that we as Americans should have in the world.
The US govt. could be buying gold now at $900/oz in hopes that it will increase to $10,000 or $20,000 per ounce or higher to be able to pay off the countries debt with worthless US dollars.
Meanwhile, the Fed is destroying our purchasing power. How do they expect the average American household to pay their mortgage, buy food and gas with worthless US dollars, since most Americans won’t get the kind of raises in their pay checks to keep up with the kind of rampant inflation that the US govt. is bringing down upon most Americans as they continue to dramatically lower interest rates which is killing the US dollar and driving the price of gold & silver higher and higher, to the Feds’ benefit.
I ask you….has the Feds lowering of the interest rates caused our mortgages interest rates and other consumer interest rates to decrease? NO !
These rates have actually been increasing. So then, why is the Fed continuing to lower rates, if it is only helping them to increase the price of gold & silver and hurting the rest of the average American by increasing their mortgage interest and credit card interest rates. Thanks a lot !
What’s next…. Is the US govt. going to start a huge media campaign to promote gold and silver so that the price of gold and silver goes out of sight to $50,000/oz or higher using their media, movie industry, news networks, etc. Where is the end to this?
The govt. is always telling us they want to control inflation. Yea Right !!! That’s why the Fed is continually lowering interest rates, destroying the US dollar, our purchasing power and America and causing their next bubble to occur. The gold & silver bubble! Did they not learn their lesson in the past bubbles they created. (i.e. the internet stock market bubble and then the real estate bubble) and now, the soon to be …. The gold and silver bubble.
Comments by the Optimist:
I think you have summarized the big picture very well, but with a few minor exceptions. The government does not need to buy gold or silver because they can simply print as many fiat paper dollars as they wish to pay off any debts that are based in dollars. Instead, it is we citizens who desperately need to buy silver and gold to have at least a modest amount of real savings as insurance against the further devaluations and loss of purchasing power that will surely happen. Reducing interest rates is not intended to help the ordinary citizen who is already earning less interest (before taxes!) on savings than the true rate of inflation. The FED is focusing the interest rate cuts on increasing profits and reducing costs to banks and large corporations. Silver and gold (and other commodities) could well be the next great bubble, but that does not change the need for ordinary people to buy silver and gold as their best form of protection from the ravages of raging inflation ahead. Cheers!
3/14/08 A reader writes:
As a small investor in gold I sincerely would appreciate your take on alleged intervention by "them". If "them" are central banks (the infinite) with printing presses and we are the speculators (the finite) then when the time is right the infinite can buy or sell as much as they want. If this is correct thinking then will it not be "them" that decide the price of precious metals? So if the price of gold is perceived at some point to endanger their paper will they not then act together to kill the precious metals market?
Comments by the Optimist:
My guess is that the powers that be (TPTB) have their hands full of emergency fires to fight, and they cannot afford to keep a fire hose focused on their efforts to submerge the prices of silver and gold. I think that a substantial amount of the fiat paper they are creating to keep the stock market afloat and to bail out the banking sector flows into precious metals. I have no doubt that TPTB can and do pick opportune times to sell precious metals sharply lower, but the cushion of huge amounts of fiat money just pushes the prices higher again. It is easy to give TPTB too much credit for being able to do the impossible, but holders of large sums of fiat (which is becoming worth less before our very eyes) will always be happy to use that surplus of fiat paper to buy something that has real and lasting value. I'm betting that silver and gold offer the lasting value that is most desired. Cheers!
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